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Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [4K 60FPS]

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This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro
Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk (www.reddit.com/r/animation/comments/b0nkqs/cat_walk_cycle_done_for_college/)
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar
Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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Жорумдар 

  1. James Baxter

    James Baxter

    16 күн мурун

    Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.

    • Dopamine Cloud

      Dopamine Cloud

      3 саат мурун

      Then don't use it. It's a tool. More tools is only a good thing. The more the better. Up to you to pick what to use and how to use it.

    • AngryPlaayer

      AngryPlaayer

      3 саат мурун

      Yeah i get that it’s “undermining the artist” or whatever, but it’s not really that deep, it just looks cool. Like, it’s cool to see choppier animations put into a new perspective. It’s not “the new age of animation”, it just increases the frame-rate of animation. I don’t see the problem.

    • Aqua Cuber

      Aqua Cuber

      16 саат мурун

      e

    • NotToo Straight

      NotToo Straight

      18 саат мурун

      Anyone disagreeing with James Baxter the best animator of our time, need to rethink how they view the medium

    • we be }

      we be }

      Күн мурун

      I think its fine for people to change the frames if they want to try it like that but I get your point

  2. PyroMancer2k

    PyroMancer2k

    13 мүнөт мурун

    The problem is people have lived their lives through the screen and so think what they say is normal and reflects reality. Like when I hear people in gaming wanting motion blur, lens flaring, and so many other things they see in movies. But the reason those are a thing in movies is because of the nature of how camera exposure works. What made it worst is people talking about how all these effects made it look "more realistic" even though that's NOT how reality actually looks. If they would spend more time outside looking at the real world they wouldn't think all these things "look better".

  3. Jaraiya Jones

    Jaraiya Jones

    30 мүнөт мурун

    Smoother animation equaln't Better animation [4K 60FPS] Better title

  4. RazzmatazzBean

    RazzmatazzBean

    59 мүнөт мурун

    i'm a programmer, not an animator, and i just want to say that i am so sorry for the actions of my fellows

  5. iDekz

    iDekz

    Саат мурун

    amazing video, one of the best I've seen in a while.

  6. Tinkerer Melon

    Tinkerer Melon

    Саат мурун

    "This whole shot is interpolated; did you even notice?" I did, and it threw me off soooo much. For me, that was the best proof of the vid.

  7. Macky Macky

    Macky Macky

    Саат мурун

    I had the video playing at a high volume, cuz I like his voice. The ending made me jump.

  8. ediv zero

    ediv zero

    Саат мурун

    13:04 agree

  9. Austin Foster-Chaney

    Austin Foster-Chaney

    Саат мурун

    I know nothing about animation, but I do understand where you come from. It's like when you're drawing and putting your heart into it making it your own and someone comes over and draws all over it/adds to it. Defeating the purpose of it being the drawing you want it to be.

  10. Cuboid Gamez

    Cuboid Gamez

    Саат мурун

    The creater of the most nostalgic music ever, c418 also known as the person who created many minecraft music in subscribed to your channel.

  11. Will Wiles

    Will Wiles

    Саат мурун

    this dude cares too much

  12. Dominic Maldonado

    Dominic Maldonado

    Саат мурун

    As a gamer, and someone who loves animation, I appreciate this rant very much, but it doesn’t apply to video games. Play Breath of the Wild on PC in 4k at 120fps, with massively increase draw distances for texture and tessellation, then play it on switch in 720p and 12-24fps, and tell me that it’s better as the creators intended. Nah fam, sometimes worse performance is just the limitation of budget and hardware, and not artistic integrity.

  13. Chris Woollard

    Chris Woollard

    2 саат мурун

    I mean auto learning ai is a thing so that point was kinda weird,butttt i agree with all of this. TIL

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      @Chris Woollard his point is fine yours is fucked up. Why are ya talking about the ai learning since this ai has none?

    • Chris Woollard

      Chris Woollard

      Саат мурун

      @Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo no,thats not what is said. watch the part again. he says AI's period do not work like that,i was just clarifying they exist. that is all

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      bro the point was that THIS ai does not have an auto learning feuture. And it cant have case base on what would it learn

  14. Aidan Meacham

    Aidan Meacham

    2 саат мурун

    well, now I know a lil more. thanks!

  15. FraggerLagger

    FraggerLagger

    2 саат мурун

    Degenerates: you know, I think this is an appropriate video to put into an AI and the- *no*

  16. Just another ghost

    Just another ghost

    2 саат мурун

    "Appeal" Oh god

  17. Tuxified Art

    Tuxified Art

    2 саат мурун

    i mean no, but in 90% of cases it looks better.

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      @Tuxified Art from when is animation about realism? its about the drawings if it wasnt you would use a 3d software you tastles piece of bread

    • Tuxified Art

      Tuxified Art

      2 саат мурун

      @WindWakerJinx the timestamp is irrelevant, the examples are cherrypicked

    • WindWakerJinx

      WindWakerJinx

      2 саат мурун

      13:31

  18. Bailey Dombroskie

    Bailey Dombroskie

    2 саат мурун

    Any of the scenes where u showed the og vs the 60fps rendered version, i chd not tell the difference. And if i cud see the frames at a high enuf rate to see the things u r describing then u r very right. And the ai u r talking about is shit. When u showed the comparision of the ai filling on the gaps to make that stick figure move comlared to drawing out the frames urself the ai has no idea wat its doing and ur drawing look soo much better.

  19. AKDreamer

    AKDreamer

    2 саат мурун

    I don't think the people who are uploading 60 fps videos are trying to say the original animation actually needed it. I see it more as an interesting experiment.

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      why would you even do this shit animation is ment to be like that oh wait , the views...

  20. SONYA

    SONYA

    2 саат мурун

    I knew it was a honey ad once I saw the book price

  21. Nugget._.

    Nugget._.

    2 саат мурун

    I think i’m the only one who doesn’t see a difference 🙂

  22. Aldo Moreno

    Aldo Moreno

    2 саат мурун

    Loud = funny

  23. Spencer Jessee

    Spencer Jessee

    3 саат мурун

    I absolutely love this animation, and the informative content on this channel.

  24. Masta Comanda

    Masta Comanda

    3 саат мурун

    Funny man......….................subscribed

  25. Morton Family

    Morton Family

    3 саат мурун

    Definitely agree. I hate all high frame rate. It just ruins everything. I fell asleep during Lord of the Rings HFR it looked like I was on LSD the entire time and while that is fun, this was not.

  26. Warp Nova

    Warp Nova

    3 саат мурун

    Wizard101

    • NarwhalMan

      NarwhalMan

      3 саат мурун

      let’s fucking go

  27. Ultimate Gamer

    Ultimate Gamer

    4 саат мурун

    Idc it looks good so who cares

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      no you dum... oh wait , the username

    • WindWakerJinx

      WindWakerJinx

      2 саат мурун

      13:31

    • DADGAMER69

      DADGAMER69

      3 саат мурун

      11:07 ah yes, it looks REALLY good

  28. Ꮆ0ͮͩͦ̑D̶L̶e̶ᎦᎦ

    Ꮆ0ͮͩͦ̑D̶L̶e̶ᎦᎦ

    4 саат мурун

    I always thought those 60FPS AI videos looked kinda wrong. But I couldn’t put it into words. This video is perfect.

  29. the slam jamfrincisco

    the slam jamfrincisco

    4 саат мурун

    Frame rates over 30 FPS is only needed when you playing a game, and that’s since most games can’t have any form of smudging since it’s already rendered when your near it.

  30. IceBear Pl

    IceBear Pl

    4 саат мурун

    3:23 file name he puts is "lego movie inttergoation scene" traitor's requiem from jojo is shown in outcomee

  31. medic

    medic

    4 саат мурун

    Where did u find the guilty gear 60FPS interpolation?

  32. WhereTheVideoEnds

    WhereTheVideoEnds

    4 саат мурун

    @11:58 - You good? Seems you lost an eyebrow, friend.

  33. Eric Si

    Eric Si

    4 саат мурун

    11:00 deepfrying would be a terrible understatement

  34. SMFluffy

    SMFluffy

    5 саат мурун

    Learning even just the amount of animation needed for getting through film school made games that look 60fps just absolutely look worse to me. Playing at 60fps is completely different but being strictly animated to it really messes with my eyes. This really is a case of all those comments on the "but in 60fps" just don't know what they are talking about, or maybe some don't have souls like the interpolation but I don't like to generalize even though I just did.

  35. Dr. J. Protobum

    Dr. J. Protobum

    5 саат мурун

    im a gamer, and i resent that statement, i love proper beautiful animation, the framerate intended is always the best framerate

  36. Double-Edge

    Double-Edge

    5 саат мурун

    Art is subjective. Fuck what the chef wants. The steak is mine and I eat that steak however I decide. Pretentious over zealous pushing of ideals and opinions onto people comes off as abrasive. Art is subjective, regardless of how you personally enjoy your steak. Regardless of how you think it should be enjoyed by other people. There's no law stating your preferences or opinions are any more valid or correct than anyone else's. This reminds me of when the breaking bad actor had this whole meltdown, saying how netflix allowing a speed up feature for video content was against his creative vision. How this was somehow against the artistic values of the show or whatever. It's all pretentious, bullshit ranting and whining about people enjoying shit the way they want and not the way you want them to. Get over it, creative types. Yes the AI shit is annoying because it is objectively bad. But leave "Gamers" out of your mouth. Clearly a community generalization problem. I've seen it a lot. But guess what? That doesn't stop me from watching your videos at whatever resolution, color or speed I like. My monitor controls and my youtube buttons are mine to press. Not yours.

    • Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Falconeeueuueueueeoeoeeoeoeoeeueoueo

      Саат мурун

      angry gamer spotted damn your tasteless

  37. porcupine

    porcupine

    5 саат мурун

    I hate TVs that automatically interpolate frames. It looks so unnatural. My uncle has one and every time I go his house I have to turn the setting off

  38. WillDaBeast850

    WillDaBeast850

    5 саат мурун

    There was a guy in the comments on the Mulan upscale video saying that everything should be in 60 FPS now, and that the reason people don’t like it is because of how people are so acclimated to 24 FPS. He even compared the situation to how people used to prefer vinyl records over CDs, SD over HD, black and white over color, etc. He completely misses the point.

  39. Zemonizer

    Zemonizer

    5 саат мурун

    I want ketchup on my gormet steak

  40. D_ram

    D_ram

    5 саат мурун

    Bro bro is living in 2016 this aint "New"

  41. Double-Edge

    Double-Edge

    5 саат мурун

    It's not the exact same amount of time? I paused it and the bottom one wins the "Race"

  42. Yeldo!

    Yeldo!

    5 саат мурун

    As an animator (Very short time on at that, cause I stopped animating a long time ago, but still) and I have been so ignorant-

  43. ThePyrish

    ThePyrish

    5 саат мурун

    yo that 1080p 50 fps is straight up 4D chess

  44. Mihail

    Mihail

    5 саат мурун

    we need moar

  45. KnoUrMeemz

    KnoUrMeemz

    6 саат мурун

    This is extremely well put together. Good job sir you've earned a sub

  46. KnoUrMeemz

    KnoUrMeemz

    6 саат мурун

    That honey ad was amazing

  47. actuatedgear

    actuatedgear

    6 саат мурун

    Gamers care about framerate because it's a reaction system of hand-eye coordination. If the Eye is slowed by frame rate of half or quarter maximum perception then reaction time is ALSO halved or quartered. 1/60 of a second in a gaming can mean all the difference.

    • WindWakerJinx

      WindWakerJinx

      2 саат мурун

      but that doesn't matter. The artist is aware of the framerate and applies appropriate timing for the viewer to have a good reaction time to what they're watching.

  48. sMashedpotatoes1

    sMashedpotatoes1

    6 саат мурун

    60 big number 24 small number so shut up

  49. Andy 8583

    Andy 8583

    6 саат мурун

    A P P E A L

  50. Its_Danny

    Its_Danny

    6 саат мурун

    I love smooth animatingion

    • WindWakerJinx

      WindWakerJinx

      2 саат мурун

      13:31

  51. MoneyT20 10

    MoneyT20 10

    6 саат мурун

    nae have to disagree with the end animators are still gonna get replaced as anything that comes with a price tag that can be replaced...(reguardless on how the quality is) is gonna be replaced. The norm will eventually become the interpolated examples and the few will be someone that actually animated things. I can see at the most a midway point where AI and animators work together and produce creations that are higher frame rates because thats whats wanted apparently as you have proven in this video easily.

  52. AWalnut

    AWalnut

    7 саат мурун

    I don't even understand how any human being could see pixel art and think "Hmm, lets ruin the simple aspect that literally builds the entire genre just to make it look smooth yass." It defeats the ENTIRE PURPOSE of pixel art and takes away y'know the squares that LITERALLY MAKES THE ART STYLE, how can someone be that humanly stupid.

  53. Parsa Shirali

    Parsa Shirali

    7 саат мурун

    No one Noodles:I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE GAMERS

  54. Tom

    Tom

    7 саат мурун

    Did you try to play games on 24 fps? For me the look like garbage. At about 40 fps they start to look smoother.

  55. Xeogram

    Xeogram

    7 саат мурун

    ur just salty

  56. Shane Soros

    Shane Soros

    7 саат мурун

    I have motion smoothing and enhancements turned all the way up on my c10 and I think everything looks great. I can't stand watching 24fps now, and this rant did nothing to change my mind, thanks for trying to tell me what I should and shouldn't like though.

  57. Lokmister

    Lokmister

    7 саат мурун

    As a gamer I can say I love this video and I’ve also learnt that those videos destroy the intention of the animations. Thank you. :)

  58. MeltJet X

    MeltJet X

    7 саат мурун

    I am not an animator, but i can understand that make an animation in 60 fps, it´s extremelly difficult

  59. wyssmaster

    wyssmaster

    7 саат мурун

    "Gourmet $30 steak" "This $45 book is expensive" I didn't realize just how badly KGkey fucked over animators

  60. Emrys Suddarth

    Emrys Suddarth

    7 саат мурун

    Well get this. Programmers will be able to put this kind of stuff in still crap at first but it will get there sooner than you think. That being said those vids sucks

    • Emrys Suddarth

      Emrys Suddarth

      7 саат мурун

      Like not ai but a combination of artists input with programmers can eventually make your life easier will it replace you no. I hear all the time ai will replace developers which is nonsense honestly. Computers are not getting faster as they used and you will see a trend of optimization that we have not had in a very long time till we get the next break through it faster drives or processors. Ai is not fast its fucking clunky and takes a long time to get right

  61. Ensar TNL

    Ensar TNL

    7 саат мурун

    me : gets literally nothing. Also me : This video is amazing.

  62. CLOSE

    CLOSE

    7 саат мурун

    1080p50? but its 4k60fps...

  63. DerDödel

    DerDödel

    7 саат мурун

    Just put a jpg of a green fps counter at the top right corner and people will tell you it looks a lot smoother

  64. Lewis

    Lewis

    8 саат мурун

    You know, honey doesn’t not fucking work very well since all the coupons are getting eaten since everyone now knows about honey.

  65. Jacobster Yt

    Jacobster Yt

    8 саат мурун

    14:06 I was about to go to sleep, you scared the living hell out of me

  66. Stratos Dedousis

    Stratos Dedousis

    8 саат мурун

    How many years it took to animate and edit a 15 minute video?

  67. suki suki

    suki suki

    8 саат мурун

    idc i just think it looks better :)

    • suki suki

      suki suki

      8 саат мурун

      before i get a very angry reply 13:34 please

  68. Grey_Dragon Gaming

    Grey_Dragon Gaming

    8 саат мурун

    5:11 the funny thing when he forced his friend to talk about honey

  69. FlameUltra04

    FlameUltra04

    9 саат мурун

    Reminds me of a video comparing two similar video games I saw once. In the comment section, one person kept yelling at everyone that one of the games was absolute trash, with the only reason they gave being that it was 30 FPS while the other game was 60, despite almost everything about the 30 FPS game actually being better. People really need to ditch that mindset that a higher frame rate makes everything better. I remember watching a few of the examples you used a few months before, and I remember everything feeling so...off about them. The smoothness almost felt distracting and uncanny, subtracting from the overall intended feel. I feel like that’s the beauty of a lot of 2D animation. The slight choppyness actually has a bit of a charm to it in my opinion. Wonderful discussion, Noodle!

  70. Andy Chow

    Andy Chow

    9 саат мурун

    The super resolution AI projects mostly don't look for higher frames. Things like Waifu2x, etc, are mostly meant to take low-resolution files and remove artifacts caused by heavy video compression. Mostly they aim anime since compression artifacts are easier to spot than real videos. I know this is going to get burried under 33000 comments but I had to say it. It's not about improving resolution of high quality video. It's about upscaling some 240p video to 1080p or 4k without having huge blocks all over the place.

  71. Matirix

    Matirix

    9 саат мурун

    Ctm me asusté más que la mierda con el final

  72. Jakub Hobl

    Jakub Hobl

    9 саат мурун

    Ill watch smoothed out animation just to spite him

    • garf

      garf

      9 саат мурун

      who cares

  73. Gabifuertes

    Gabifuertes

    9 саат мурун

    Surely AI interpolation looks awful. But praising 12-24 frame rates is like praising gourmet food. As a consumer there is not a "too high to be good" frame rate. Deliberately using lower frame rates to achieve "artistic identity" is pretty much like choosing a different medium. You are making constraints to allow yourself to deliver something. That doesn't mean it won't look janky. People can make it look like a slideshow sometimes. To explain my gourmet food comparison: it's pretty much the same. If I'm leaving a restaurant hungry, I'll think about it as a failure. Chef will think I can't appreciate his intent.

  74. Gierdziu Gaming

    Gierdziu Gaming

    9 саат мурун

    oh yes artists cry oh yes ai grows oh yes your job is gooonne pale satisfaction progress of the wild animals of terror the new generation will appreciate the times always change you are gone when you born welcome in 21century kinda /s but interpolate it for more reasons

  75. Magiczny Sznurek

    Magiczny Sznurek

    9 саат мурун

    To be honest, when I'm watching the little comedic transitions, such as 7:46 - 7:53, it feels like I'm just wasting my time. I hate them.

  76. Alex Video. Com

    Alex Video. Com

    9 саат мурун

    idc I just think it looks better :)

  77. Bhupendra Singh

    Bhupendra Singh

    9 саат мурун

    I just think 60 fps look better

  78. sneha jain

    sneha jain

    9 саат мурун

    You sound like naofumi iwatani

  79. Sir Breadstick

    Sir Breadstick

    9 саат мурун

    This explained why all these videos popped up and I'm sitting there wondering why the "enhanced" versions felt off and uneasy to me. Crazy how this works though, super cool to get some insight.

  80. fireboy1236indo / FIREBLOX Official Undertale Au

    fireboy1236indo / FIREBLOX Official Undertale Au

    10 саат мурун

    This legit 2nd most views

  81. Aki Neko

    Aki Neko

    10 саат мурун

    This is good and I really watched it with high volume and wearing earphones so I can clearly hear and understand it. But that last part almost give me a heart attack. Still! This is really good. You have a good point there! I subbed (。•̀ᴗ-)✧

  82. Auf einen Blick

    Auf einen Blick

    10 саат мурун

    butthurt crybabe

  83. John Schwalb

    John Schwalb

    10 саат мурун

    Everyone freaks out when they first noticed computer is starting to be able to do their job. The ai isn't perfect yet, but they to get better with time.

  84. IgneousGorilla

    IgneousGorilla

    10 саат мурун

    I don't think AI being used for smoothing animation should be seen as a problem, or some competitive alternative to actual man-made frame by frame animation. Rather it should be seen as a mere showcase of something AI can do, right now, with all its quirks and issues lots of which are discussed in this video. The problem is the people who think 60 FPS is always better just because it's 60 FPS. 10 years down the line pro animators might be using AI based software that uses interpolation with a more natural and adaptive feel to it, and for an arbitrary value of FPS. I wouldn't like to see art communities antagonize AI being used for making art, because its coming and its real, just like digital art as a whole did years ago.

    • Solv

      Solv

      9 саат мурун

      I agree. I think the point is less of antagonizing AI being used for art and more of criticizing "artist" who take someone else's work, plug it into an ai, and call it their own "remastered" version

  85. SirMrMcJack

    SirMrMcJack

    11 саат мурун

    The main problem is, as already said, that the AI was made for life action footage. The difference to 2D animation being is that there aren't any defined lines at every frame. Due to cameras not being able to perfectly capture a single frame as it is in its exact moment due to a needed exposure time every frame will have a certain smeariness to it. With 2D animation you can basically "capture" a frame with 0 seconds of exposure time while still having a good amount of contrast and colors which is sadly not possible with cameras and it never will be. Zero is Zero and no time to capture an image means no image. Therefore the AI is programmed to incorporate smeariness into the inbetween frames. And what happenes when you use it for 2D or even 3D animation that has no such smeariness? Exactly: you get an ugly mixture of the two.

  86. Bacon Craft

    Bacon Craft

    11 саат мурун

    it makes it so much easier

  87. Bacon Craft

    Bacon Craft

    11 саат мурун

    easing is the best

  88. Arnaud PARAN

    Arnaud PARAN

    11 саат мурун

    Saying that AI will interpolate with the simplest path is utterly false. I fully understand the fact that it should be the decision of the animator to use AI or not, but AI is not stupid interpolation from point A to point B, the whole interest of using AI is to train it on stylistic data so that AI can feel in the blanks by keeping the style. That's what neural networks do and they certainly don't just use the simplest path, if they were it would not be called AI because AI is trying to imitate what humans would do. Also you make a lot of claims on AI while it seems like you have no idea about how it works. I personally work in deep learning, and the issues you point don't mean that "AI will never be able to do like animators do" contrary to your personal belief, it means that if we want AI to get better at animation, we need machine learning engineers to work hand in hand with animators. And would that not be a good thing for animators too? Wouldn't it be great to have tools which would help animators create qualitative content without having to be litterally 20 people to work one month for 20 minutes of animation? So instead of saying "blablablab AI bad" wouldn't it be better to point out where AI fails currently and try to help the research getting things right? I mean I find that dumb that people just use their preconcieved ideas about stuff without even taking the time to research the stuff properly. Instead of making statements about an industry you know nothing of, try to learn some stuff about AI, you will come out knowing more sincerely.

    • Arnaud PARAN

      Arnaud PARAN

      8 саат мурун

      @Solv Also I did some 3D animation even though I am far from being great in it but that is very different from 2D animation. And I worked on some fluid dynamics models that are more accurate and realistic than what animators use as those need to be used for forecasting.

    • Arnaud PARAN

      Arnaud PARAN

      8 саат мурун

      @Solv You are right, I am not an animator, I am a painter and professional musician though, and to be honest, we start having machine learning models which can do what musicians do. But you're right, I don't understand the subtleties of motion as an animator does. I wrote that comment in the middle of the video and in the end the message gets better. He points one thing which is the actual reason why deep learning does not work well on animation, and the reason is simple, deep learning has been made to deal with real life photos, so it can deal with real images in a pretty awesome way, like SC-FEGAN does for example, but animation has not been a point of interest of deep learning. Those models work awesome to colorize and put to 60fps old black and white movies but as animation was not a point of interest, it is dealt with. Also, one issue he points out could be solved pretty easily, the issue of two frames being the same, if you just take more frames (which is completely possible), then you can probably deal with that issue. And you shouldn't assume what people do or don't do because there is no reason why someone working in deep learning could not be an animation artist too ;)

    • Solv

      Solv

      9 саат мурун

      Eh. You're not wrong, but at the same time, you're not an artist, just the same as he isn't an expert neural networks and machine learning. And as far as "AI will never be able to do like animators do", it's not a completely false statement. What we currently call "what humans are able to do" as opposed to "what AI can do" will change in the future. The AI will become a better *tool* for animators to *use*. I think the purpose of the video was to criticize those who don't understand animation and art; such as those just plugging in someone else's work into an AI, upping the frame-rate, and then calling it "remastered".

  89. Cofcofo

    Cofcofo

    11 саат мурун

    Idc i just think it looks better :)

  90. Blue Bird Animations

    Blue Bird Animations

    11 саат мурун

    7:39 Ugh it..it just looks so gross. 🤢

  91. chiptoony

    chiptoony

    11 саат мурун

    worst experience ive had with this is when my partner was showing me steven universe on a tv that had a 60fps ai built-in, unbeknownst to him. im not pointing this out to rag on the show or anything cuz its not a bad thing, but it has a number of pretty static scenes of characters hanging out and talking shot-reverse-shot with pretty basic and straightforward animation that isnt really trying to do any crazy anticipation or squash & stretch or anything, so during those scenes the ai kinda slipped by unnoticed for a while (at least from a distance with my bad eyesight). whenever there was a cut though, holy shit, the snagging between those types of scenes and the sudden burst of movement as the ai tried to figure out how to connect the ending and starting frame of two completely different scenes was soooo bad. i was distracted by it for an entire episode as i was trying to figure out why it was making me feel sick. i sincerely hope to god people with tvs and monitors with those types of built-in ais at least know how to turn them off, at least the people making and posting those shitty 4k 60fps "remasters" have the ability to go back and edit out the disgusting scene transition blobs if they feel like putting in a bare minimum amount of effort

  92. M7 MD

    M7 MD

    12 саат мурун

    I'm going to use this program on this video then repost it . 😀

  93. Khaled Assaf

    Khaled Assaf

    12 саат мурун

    FINALLY someone has said this! Every time someone starts ranting about how more frames means better animation I'm gonna link your video. And anyway, the whole thing is disrespectful to the original artist. It's just another form of "fixed your art" by someone who has no clue about art. As a gamer myself, btw, I completely agree with you about what you said about gamers. The obsession with frame rate is ridiculous. HFR is great in some games, but to hear that animations are still 30 or less due to the industry being stuck in the past is honestly kind of obnoxious. There's much more to animation than frame rates!

  94. Caleb Cervantes

    Caleb Cervantes

    12 саат мурун

    King Crimson

  95. Will Bruce

    Will Bruce

    12 саат мурун

    @4:53 there it is

  96. Jesper Lego

    Jesper Lego

    12 саат мурун

    idc i just think it looks better :)

  97. Seikoudesu

    Seikoudesu

    12 саат мурун

    As a gamer I have never been so offended by something I completely agree with

  98. bored human

    bored human

    12 саат мурун

    God I despise it when people do this, I hate it, especially when someone puts anime through this it looks awful

  99. Бэbel

    Бэbel

    12 саат мурун

    🥚

  100. Eccentric

    Eccentric

    13 саат мурун

    60 fps hurts my eyes